• davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    Kneeling for the US flag is kneeling for an imperialist bourgeois state, which is incompatible with communism at the most fundamental level. This meme looks like a patriotic socialist brainworms

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      8 months ago

      It depends on what you interpret kneeling to mean. In the US, kneeling for the flag or kneeling for the national anthem is a form of protest when tradition dictates that you should stand with your hand over your heart. In recent years, the act has made news due to NFL players (starting with Colin Kaepernick) kneeling in protest of police brutality and racial inequality in the US. It is not an act of reverence as if you were kneeling before a ruler or deity.

      Kneeling for the US flag and supporting communism/socialism and LGBTQ rights are all very leftist concepts.

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        8 months ago

        If would be a good meme if it actually made reference to Kaepernick. Kneeling for a symbol is historically honorary, so without Kaepernick the meme is ambiguous. It wasn’t so much that Kaepernick was kneeling, it was that he was not standing for the flag with everyone else.

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          8 months ago

          If you’re unfamiliar with America and it’s traditions, I can see your point. Americans don’t need the extra visual aid. “Kneeling for the flag” only means one thing.

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              8 months ago

              Fair. I can only speak about my lived experience. It may have faded from the public eye, but when I was living in the states, just saying the word “kneel” would have gotten half the population frothing at their mouth.

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                8 months ago

                Yeah, I think I would’ve have gotten it in 2019, but kneeling definitely isn’t at the top of my mind as a form of protest. And even at the time it seemed odd to me because kneeling is almost always interpreted as a show of respect.