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Some woman on the internet said she would feel safer spending a night in the woods with a random bear rather than with a random man

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    7 months ago

    That post frustrated the fuck out of me. Like I get and agree with the point you’re trying to make. But no, if you were actually given that choice no reasonable person is actually going to pick the bear.

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        7 months ago

        You share your world with random men you don’t know every single day. How often do you walk through a bear encloser at a zoo?

    • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@lemmy.today
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      7 months ago

      Why wouldn’t a reasonable person pick the bear? Plenty of people have just ordinary, totally safe experiences with bears in their normal lives. Meanwhile, they have ordinary SV committed against them by men in their normal lives. Why shouldn’t they pick the group that hasn’t been a constant threat to them? Its not asking you to try to pick a fight with the bear.

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        7 months ago

        Why wouldn’t a reasonable person pick the bear?

        Because you’re comparing a wild animal that can easily kill you with a single swipe, with a random normal person?

        Plenty of people have just ordinary, totally safe experiences with bears in their normal lives.

        I can, with 10,000,000,000% certainty tell you that way more people have vastly more ordinary, totally safe experiences with random men in their normal lives than with bears.

        • Because you’re comparing a wild animal that can easily kill you with a single swipe, with a random normal person?

          Can easily kill is different than likely to. Plus, the same is true of any human, but they’re also much more likely to have outcomes far worse than quickly being just being killed. Its a random person in the woods, not just a *normal *person (whatever “normal” is supposed to mean). But honestly, I don’t think I’d put it past many “normal” humans (men and women) to commit at least minor SV in the “right” circumstances.

          I can, with 10,000,000,000% certainty tell you that way more people have vastly more ordinary, totally safe experiences with random men in their normal lives than with bears.

          Sure, but I’m just as certain that women have far more experiences with SV from humans than any violence from bears. Even if they’re actual survivors of bear attacks, they’re likely the victim of far more SV by men.

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      7 months ago

      I’m not trying to make a point tbh. It’s one of those questions where there is no right answer due to many details not being said in the question

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      7 months ago

      I have had bears violently coming towards me, I would not pick an apex predator any day, but yeah, pick the bear, sure lol.