Have been keeping half an eye on framework laptops as a potential next daily driver as and when I’m ready for one.

Just wondering what people’s experience of using them on linux has been, particularly nixos

I’m assuming all the drivers are in the kernel given the way the company is

Have been using a 2016 thinkpad for the past year or so and have had a decent experience with it, with the way lenovo have gone with their newer thinkpads it seems like framework is now the best for maintainability/upgradability

(not planning to upgrade in the immediate future as this machine is doing fine, but frameworks are a strong contender in my mind right now and I’m curious as to people’s experience)

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    2 months ago

    I really want one because I am tired of my lemon of a 2022 M2 MacBook Air and even more tired of paying money to a corporation that does basically everything in its power to remind me that I don’t own my own hardware. I had to have the goddamn logic board replaced on this thing, and Apple refused to let me retain the original part, even though the SSD chips were perfectly fine. I unknowingly botched my time machine backup and forewent the $100 bench backup, and now some five weeks worth of my data is gone forever because they wouldn’t let me keep the original part because “muh policy”.

    The only thing stopping me from purchasing a Framework laptop is that the fan intake vents are on the bottom of the device, which makes using the laptop on my lap not very doable.

    Also, I am pretty over aluminum as a material for devices that I have to touch with my skin for long periods of time. I would prefer carbon fiber.

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      Do you know if the fans are particularly loud? Something I love about my ThinkPad is that it’s basically silent

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        I definitely don’t know. I have had no opportunity to physically use a Framework laptop. I am only speaking about what I know from the images on their website.

        Or do you mean the MacBook Air? These later model Airs don’t have fans, and that means the aluminum gets really, really hot. The CPU temperature readouts get up to 170°F. It’s bonkers.

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          I meant the framework, but fair enough

          Supposedly the newer macs were quite good at heat dissipation, was that iBullshit?

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            The under panel aluminum gets really hot, which in turn dissipates into my leg muscles while it is on my lap. I guess that makes the heat dissipation good (enough?) since the CPU doesn’t get worse than 170°F. It is honestly just pretty awful.

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        I’ve heard people complain, but mine are so quiet I thought they weren’t spinning. I think the difference is the external GPU, which I do not have.

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          Ah interesting, I was considering not bothering with the GPU as I only plan to use the thing for work anyway

          What’s the battery life like without, I heard from someone else 3 or 4 hours of normal usage but unsure if that’s with or without

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      I just learned about the fans, and my plans to get a framework next time tanked.