• krolden@lemmy.mlOP
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    1 year ago

    Then why have things been getting so much worse over the past 50 years even with plenty of blue boys and gals getting put in office?

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      1 year ago

      Ummm because nuance is a thing that exists. Global conditions, etc. I mean the guy in power during the pandemic saying we should inject bleach or nuke incoming hurricanes sure as shit helped things be worse.

    • Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      What about the good that has happened?

      Do you think gay marriage would have been protected?

      Access to birth control secured?

      Anti-sodomy laws getting struck down?

      The Affordable Care Act passing?

      Disability rights?

      Do you think any of those things would have happened if Republicans been able to seize power and hold it unopposed over the last 50 years? No. None of those things would have happened. Those things happened because people further left than them got elected, the lesser of 2 evils won some elections.

      Don’t let perfect be the enemy of better.

      • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]@hexbear.net
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        1 year ago

        disability rights were fought for by disabled people, not fucking democrats. Gay people rioted to get their rights.

        and do you actually think contraceptives are secured?

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          Do you think any of those things would have passed in a country where people didn’t vote?

          And all those rights secured by supreme court rulings are sitting on shaky ground, why? Republicans stacking the courts.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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            They’re sitting on shaky ground because Obama refused to seat a justice, RBG refused to retire when she could have been replaced, and because Biden et all refuse to stack the courts.

            : |

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              Obama didn’t refuse to seat a justice, he was blocked by Mitch McConnell. Who also blocked every single judge appointment that Obama should have been able to make in the last 2 years of his presidency. And Republicans were talking about leaving that seat open until a Republican won the presidency. This is why trump has the most judicial appointments of any president.

              And RBG reduced to retire likely out of pride during the Obama years, but smartly didn’t retire during the trump years.

              Biden refusing to stack the courts is pretty shitty, but if he does so it’s going to open the flood gates for that being a possibility. Do I think he should? Yes. But I also think that if he does so their should be a cap put in place, but to put a cap in place would require a constitutional amendment, and there’s no way that will get through our current Senate.

      • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]@hexbear.net
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        It would have been on a state-by-state basis, which is what we’re coming dangerously close to anyway.

        We don’t go around campaigning specifically to discourage people from voting. Our project is to get people to see beyond the seesaw spectacle.

        When someone offers you two poor options, the right thing to do is to create a better option, even if you take the less bad option in the short run. Voting a Democrat into office and then congratulating ourselves on doing it is how progress slips and how we lose sight of what’s needed.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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        1 year ago

        Gay marriage isn’t protected. Scotus can shoot it down on a whim

        Lol Biden lost Roe

        Court decision

        Sucks

        What rights? SSI tops out at 700$ a month, I can never have more than 2k in assets, and if I get married I lose it all. Just happened to a friend of mine, they’re going to have to annul their marriage so they don’t starve to death. “disability rights”.

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      1 year ago

      Because Republicans? We’ve not had plenty of blues elected. We’ve seen abysmal showings from the left and republicans being elected across the nation who are setting out to destroy people’s rights.