• ghost_laptop@lemmy.mlM
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    1 year ago

    I think you didn’t read the last news, it’s over because Wagner is going back.

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      1 year ago

      And Putin still lost. He’s been shown to be weak. He compromised.

      Now the other sharks that Putin surrounded himself with will smell that weakness.

      Autocrats must project that Strongman image, especially when it’s a lie. Dictators who show weakness like this rarely die peacefully.

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        1 year ago

        Russians have a true sense of patriotism and love for their people, not like you in the West that send their brothers to die and enslave their own people. This has just made Putin stronger, all of the military supported him and proved his men are loyal. Prigozhin got ousted and Wagner is going to be nationalized, Ukraine didn’t even win any territory in the front lines during all of this because their offensive didn’t even start. If you consider this a lost you are delirious and refuse to analyse reality.

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      1 year ago

      Over-ish. Wagner just showed Putin that he doesn’t have total control. I doubt the power dynamic will remain the same after this.

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      1 year ago

      This is far from “over.” If Wagner’s going back because Putin caved on their terms Putin’s left looking tremendously weak.

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        1 year ago

        What terms? You sound like a man in the know…i assume you have direct communication?

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          1 year ago

          I’ve been following the live thread on Reddit. Prigozhin was demanding the removal of Shoigu.

          It’s sounding like he may or may not have got that, but that he and his men are getting amnesty at the very least. Which given that he literally invaded Russia and shot down Russian aircraft on the way to Moscow is still an amazingly weak showing for Putin.

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              1 year ago

              He has been talking horseshit since I got r/datahoarder semi-migrated to Lemmy. He came from there. Some faucets leak, but they will get sealed with time.

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                1 year ago

                I came from Reddit in general, /r/datahoarder was just one of many interests. I have no idea what “horseshit” you think I’ve been talking since I came here.