I watch a fair amount of series, but I’m not a data hoarder. I see the value in 2GB episodes, but I watch most series on my laptop, my simple 1920x1080 tv or even my phone where that value doesn’t make a difference. If I want to have a theater experience, I’ll go to the theater.
Most of the times I just want to enjoy a good story and relax before I go to bed.
I don’t have infinite storage and I hate when I want to download something new, but Im out of storage, so I have to delete stuff first.
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I paid for this 4k TV, so damn it I want all the pixels!
Seriously though, resolution is only half the equation. Bitrate, HDR, and compression methods are very important as well.
The rise of HEVC and AV1 is arriving! Keeping the quality with a smaller file size. Plex and most android devices support AV1 now too!
I really shot myself in the foot downloading 4k60 versions of some of my favorite movies. The quality is great, but I can really only watch them on my gaming pc.
Not on my 65" 8k OLED they aren’t! You can absolutely tell the difference.
Smaller/low res screens though, sure.
That’s what I’m saying; not everyone watches media on their phones. I have a Plex server at home with a projector and a mediocre 5.1 (not a HTIB). No way I’m running anything less than 1080p.
Ha, yeah. I work from home, and when I’m out the last thing I want to do is look at my phone.
So I watch films at home. I paid for a high end home cinema set up, I’m gonna make the most of it. Otherwise it’s just a waste.
This may change as I’m having to downscale a bit for my new apartment…but yeah, 200mb still won’t be enough.
Agreed, since I mostly watch stuff on my not-4K laptop or my not-4K phone.
For people who like to watch stuff on huge 4K screens and stuff, they’ll require higher quality videos, but as long as everyone has their needs meet I’m more than fine.
500mb 1080p HEVC for most shows on a 75" TV, but if it’s a space sci-fi show with lots of dark scenes I need that 1GB-2GB episode.
Some shows get by on 200MB, but it depends how static the scenes are and how much lighting there is.
Surely at that size you would notice the artifacts. Just for my sake can you try a Bluray remux. I expect it’s 4k so you could just grab a 4k web-DL and see if you can notice the difference.
Yeah, I agree, I can understand wanting higher resolutions but there are diminishing returns and even 1 GB for a half-hour episode is pretty absurd.
Plus, you can’t seed what you can’t keep.
I sort by size, then seeders. I didn’t buy all my hifi tv and surround sound to watch compression in action. I couldn’t imagine those 200 to 300 mb episodes, but to each their own. i usually pull the 3 gb to 4 gb episodes.
A 12tb WD hard drive is like 200$ when they go on sale. That equates to about 0.015$/gb. So that 3 gb show costs all of a nickel to store.
Some of my TV shows are 15gb per episode lol
Now that just sounds like poor compression on the video.
H.265 is my favourite codec on the citadel
1337x has tons of episodes that are that size. It seems to either be ~200mb or 2gb+ though. It would be cool if there were a nice middle ground.
Get better sources then
Well that is a super helpful comment. 🙄
I downloaded some 200mb episodes on telegram but I’ve never seen such bs before. Because of that I only download from the Usenet and have a look on the nfo before.
Good enough for who? You? Sure. But not everyone watches on a small screen. Some people might actually care about the quality too. Some of us can’t goto the theatre.
2GB isn’t large by any stretch. There are 720p versions of pretty much everything (at least that’s what I see on most Usenet Indexers). You could easily get a multiple terabyte external drive if your internal storage is full.
A family of 4 going to the theater is about 1TB of external SSD. Nowadays they are smaller than your regular phone.
This is going to be my new way of measuring “worth” how many TBs of SSD storage does thing X equate to lol.
The Chev principle
Yeah complaining about storage space in 2023 is a bit silly. You can go on eBay right now and get a used 4TB SATA drive for $25. Even cheaper if you get SAS drives, you just need a SAS expansion card which is also around $20 or so. 6TB SAS drives are going for $30.
ISP data caps are a bigger enemy than raw storage capacity these days. It costs me $50/mo to remove my 1TB cap. Which means it is more expensive to download 6TB than it is to buy 6TB of physical storage. And even SSDs are dirt cheap now. Storage has never been cheaper.
Am I the only one that doesn’t like the idea of used hard drives?
You are not. I wouldn’t trust a used hard drive in any way.
Not even in a zfs raidz2 of just 5 drives?
I am using unRAID so if one dies I can just replace it. About 4 years ago I bought a lot of fifteen 3TB SAS drives and I have had them running 24/7 since then. Funny enough not a single one has died. They all had around 5 years of power-on hours and now they are up to 9 and still going strong. Honestly I expected to lose at least one per year but they are surprisingly resilient.
Fair enough. Also using Unraid so I guess overall it’s not a bad idea. I just need to actually get the damn things.
I didn’t know data caps are still a thing. Where is this?
The good ol’ United States. Most of the major ISPs have caps here and you do not really have multiple choices because they basically have monopolies in their respective areas.
I did not know that! I remember data caps being a thing here in the middle of Europe in the early 2000s. There haven’t been data caps for home internet connections for a long time.
I’d even say that going to the theater sucks balls. The picture and sound quality usually sucks compared to a high quality download on a 75" 4k TV. Even a high bit rate 1080p video looks better than the theater.
It costs ,e over $100 to take the family out for a movie. As someone on disability right now that $100 is better spent on other things (Like a years worth of Usenet service ;) )
I see usenet, I upvote. Not on Reddit anymore but still a simple man.
As long as you are happy with that, all good. Fuck the people that sets a standard for you.
my laptop, my simple 1920x1080 tv or even my phone
yeah well that’s cool but I like my media big and (when appropriate) loud, with as high a quality as I can get
I am a data hoarder and endorse this message.
I download the biggest files i can get. Im going to delete it when I’m done with it anyways, who cares about the space.
Blasphemy! Don’t you care about your share ratio?
Also i should mention that I do torrent occasionaly and I leave it seeding for ages. So my torrent ratios are very healthy.
I primarily use Usenet, so no seeding.
