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Yea that’s cool dude no hard feelings 😎 I understand

Yea you’ll be fine man don’t sweat it. I hope it works out where everyone including yourself is happy with the result.

Don’t ever spend a second ‘worrying’ about lemmy hissy fit throwers. You couldn’t pay me to spend my time trying to please all of them because then that would mean I’m in fucking hell 🤣

You can never please an army of entitled, self important, politically obsessed, and passive aggressive internet people no matter what you do. Someone is not gunna be happy for whatever reason, but you’re not responsible for their feelings.

Down votes don’t mean shit 🤣 other then you’re right and they’re fucking mad about it and need to be able to press a button because you’re not kissing their ass and catering to them. Children throw fits that’s what that is.

Anyway I’m done preaching lol touch base with me if or when you get this going. I’m not gunna participate but I would like to see how it unfolds

I think you should try it. You can create the community idea I mentioned on our instance if you want, (Extremely Polite Politics. You can call it something else I don’t care) Not to test the bot you made though as I am not the server admin. Creating the above community would be basically a way for you to experiment and get a feel for what you’re ultimately trying to accomplish without the heavy commitment.

Think of it like it’s a game. Everyone’s allowed to say what they usually would say I guess (No violations of TOS though)

But they literally HAVE TO keep it Extremely formal and polite otherwise ban from community. It doesn’t have to be a permanent ban from this community, but it needs to be long enough to where when they come back, they’ll know they have to be more careful.

I think a 5 day to a week ban at most, would be the ideal option. Possibly leave yourself a note to notify you either on the modlog or something else that will give you a notification to unban them and notify them their ban time is up. But that’s a curiosity on your part if you want to do that u don’t have too.

However that open line of communication builds trust in your moderation and that you’re actually following your own rules. Bans won’t be because they’re leftist or conservative bans will be because their wording is rude, baligerant, angry and so forth.

So they’re able to speak their minds but just not in the way they want to.

Also it will be a fun way less stressful to and more entertaining and humorous as a reader or lurker. You’ll get to see throughou and consistent back and forth without the toxicity that just makes you feel nasty and gets your angry.

I say do it ! But I know and understand if not interested. I’m only meaning to be encouraging that’s all

If you’re interested, you should try this community idea I had. You can use it, I don’t care. But it would be an interesting experiment for this I think maybe give you some insight ? It’d be a fun way to see how users can adhere to strict rules in political communities.

Community - Extremely Polite Politics: Where everyone can argue and be rude to eachother about politics BUT it MUST ONLY BE WRITTEN IN EXTREMELY FORMAL AND POLITE LANGUAGE think 1800s kind of but to the point of Ridiculousness. Example: Leftist might I inquire about your beliefs in X Y and Z and why it appears as though, you are most certainty incorrect on all of the above issues as mentioned? No cussing no slang. None of that.

https://hilariouschaos.com/post/266168

Just a thought

Yea I think that would really show effort on your part of ‘trying to make it work’ and not ‘working against’ if that makes sense.

Hell dude, you use chatgpt? Use the voice option and have it type it up for you to save some time. Obviously edit for specifics and clarity. Even ask it’s opinion on it for shits and giggles lol

I do that it’s interesting sometimes. But good luck ok ! U got this !

Maybe it can come with a guidebook about what to do so the bot won’t active Judge Dredd mode on you.

Yes.

In my opinion, for what you’re trying to achieve, this would literally help a lot of people.

I was even going to mention if you thought of providing examples to the community of what NOT TO DO so ppl can avoid the ban hammer.

I think examples and such would help get you to where you want the community to be faster, and also it shows you’re being transparent with everyone and that’s what most ppl appreciate and respect.

If you don’t provide a guide like that they might feel like a wool is being pulled over their eyes.

I mean you’re not required to care about that, yes that’s true, I’m only saying I think it would paint you and your goal here in a better/ Your trying to help everyone light rather then assuming you’re trying to silence everyone if that makes sense.

Appreciate the response getting into detail.

I think I get the idea of what you’re meaning and trying to do. My interpretation from what you’ve written is basically, sense people go ape shit and lose their marbles derailing actual discussion, toxic asf, out of control basically.

The idea is to lay a strict barrier of entry to any and all users across the bored, while also immediately banning users that display any type of chaotic behavior, its solely dependent on their temperament, interactions, and behavior on lemmy. Because that will be the indicator if whether or not they are just gunna absolutely lose their shit in the political community OR if they’re grounded enough to actually be able to ‘handle’ and maintain their composure.

I get it, I mean it makes sense. I’m not saying this in a being an ass passive aggressive bs way, but basically since those communities are a disaster, you want to strictly moderate to the strictest degree in order to get the crap out. And if they don’t like it ? Well though shit. You either be civil or gtfo and not allowed to participate. Good behavior? Then, yea, ok you’re allowed but also follow these x rules or you fucking out.

Makes me think of Pavlovs dogs honestly lol But I could be wrong that’s just my interpretation of the idea. Desperate times Desperate measures. Stay on topic zero tolerance for deviating. Idk man you’re not wrong. The political communities are toxic asf maybe it does need that. We’ll see in sure some instances will be interested.

As for the CSS disclaimer I need to find the post. But maybe a month ago I saw a .ml post someone asking to only leave their community post disclaimer in specific communities and not all of them. So it is possible to do that. I just don’t know the necessary details about getting that going. You should look into it. I’ll try to find that post and link it in a comment. But in case I don’t, it’s worth a search if you’re interested and if it would help you.

Well…

I’ve got questions lol

And I’m not saying any of this in a confrontational way, that’s not my intention. So I hope it doesn’t come off they way.

Question One: When you say ‘assholes’ are you meaning ONLY the conservative, libertarian, republican, centrist and A political assholes ? Or do you mean LITERALLY ALL THE FLAVORS OF ASSHOLES (No pun intended) which are the conservative, libertarian, republican, centrist, A political ppl, AND ALSO THE leftist, liberal, Democratic, and anti capitalism assholes ? IF it’s the second one, then I would say that is fair but with the way lemmy is, I feel like some ppl are going to be thinking “Oh great, if I disagree with the majority here it’s gunna be EVEN MORE restrictive.” I ask this bc from what I’ve seen, leftist get no penalties here when being a complete dick to ppl who disagree and don’t believe their ideologies. They have free range to be an ass. But when the minority political opinions defend themselves once provoked, they’re the ones who end up getting banned that is by no means equal or fair.

Question Two: Have you thought about instead putting an automatic disclaimer when users go to create a new post saying at the bottom something like: WARNING BEFORE POSTING TO THIS COMMUNITY You can have whatever opinion you want. You just can’t be unproductive or an asshole about the way you say your opinion to other users in this community or you WILL BE BANNED ! Think carefully before posting and replying. Maybe even pin it as the top comment on a post? Although I’m not sure lemmy can do that.

Question Three: what’s been your biggest issue with this that has promoted you to create this solution? What will the desired result look like in your opinion if you go forward with this?

Thanks for your time. Was an interesting read

Ty

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That community name is hilarious lol made me laugh

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Yup. I agree. Yall are welcome to make those communities on our instance if you want we chill

like hello LOL where have you been dude lol? I mean that’s how a lot of them are just from what I’ve seen I mean they don’t care about being fair dude. it’s I don’t know and my personal opinion if you can’t be level-headed about shit and you are letting your emotions kind of dictate how you run your online community then I think that you’re a little bit too involved and you’re a little bit too emotional thinking instead of being rational. like it’s just an online community dude you’re not God okay I mean I know you may feel like that for a second when you ban people and shit, but it’s just really fucking lame and it shows that you can’t handle conflict very well and afraid of Confrontation. so I mean really what kind of community is that even going to be I mean like there’s not going to be any discourse cuz you’re just going to ban whoever for whatever reason right? I mean a stupid over here on our instance we’re pretty level-headed. we don’t do that shit just don’t violate the terms of service or post anything illegal.