Point taken. Saves me some clicking!

Great talk on SystemD for those that are interested: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o_AIw9bGogo&pp=2AHFBpACAQ%3D%3D

1. no. Processes have a life cycle other than init. Fire and forget with bash scripts is backwards.

2. I am no expert on this and could not do this answer justice. A quick search will provide a better and more detailed answer. That is if you are willing to consider that SystemD provides benefits. The way you wrote your question gives me vibes that you do not want to, so this debate would be fruitless.

If you’re genuinely curious Benno Rice has a great talk on SystemD: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o_AIw9bGogo&pp=2AHFBpACAQ%3D%3D

There is Alpine and Void Linux which are commonly known of and used. Plus more: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Linux_distributions_without_systemd

Most distros independently decided that SystemD was superior. They had a choice and they chose. Distros are often maintained by volunteers in their free time. Same with software that depends on it. Expecting them to provide poor irrelevant choices is not how open source works. You’re passing on your backbreaking work onto other people. If you want another option, you give your time to make it happen.

SystemD is not an init system. It provides that functionality, but processes have more life cycle steps than just initialize.

When you accept that, you realise that you cannot compare them.

SystemD provides functionality that they don’t. Of course those that refuse to consider this will just claim it’s bloat. To some DE’s are bloat.

Eh?

It does take space on the hard drive. Can easily remove desktop shortcuts. Telemetry on open source software doesn’t usually happen without consent and you can turn it off (Firefox for example).

This is more of a feeling type thing. If it makes you feel good though, go ahead.

Non-running software doesn’t affect performance as it isn’t anywhere near your RAM or CPU. What often people perceive of bloat is frequently software dependencies that are likely to be used over the course of the OS’s usage.

Often I have found bloat free setups end up taking hours of digging out dependencies on multiple occasions. Life is too short. I have things to build.

Chromium can fuck off. FF is king.

Rolling distro, up to date kernel, very good KDE support, stable?

OpenSuse Tumbleweed has got you covered.

Though this weird bloat fetish usually leads to Arch…

I just want to say thank you for providing the instance.

For myself, lemmy.world and lemmy.ml are strictly politically one way or another and perhaps somewhat intolerant of other views. I like how this space is something that can be a gateway into interacting with users of all persuasions without the “quick, defederate them all” nonsense. I only hope and wish that lemm.ee grows to maintain it’s position as one of the key cornerstones of the lemmy community.

Thanks for providing this space and persisting. I can imagine it has not been easy.

You know it’s a 3 character documentation change.

Unless Quake was made with Copilot, that seems very unlikely:

https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/oc9qj1/copilot_regurgitating_quake_code_including_sweary/

Those that truly dislike MS and telemetry won’t.

If I’m using non-free it is Jet Brains.

I tend to use Kate, KDevelop.

MS still slurping code into Copilot from Github and telemetry in VSCode.

Sanity is restored.

Love KDE, and good to see them chipping away at these pain points.

It was actually the BBC that documents this, and those expansions. Foreign policy wise, it’s about as imperial as it comes. It’s pro-Israel, pro-Ukraine, pro-NATO.

Even if the point you raise is technically correct, knowing interests in that area are uncomfortable about that and pushing through that, could be construed as a little antagonistic. The west had nuclear non-proliferation treaties in this regards post the cold war to remove tensions. This was one of those policies aimed at de-escalation. Even if it’s technically legal, choosing actions that will piss off countries you’re trying to work through de-escalations with either stupid or antagonistic.

I think the Russian propaganda line is that NATO started this, so Russia are justified. To make it clear, Russia aren’t justified to invade a country and commit atrocities, but even then, in any situation, if you cannot look back at your own actions, and think is there something we could have done differently, you’re doomed to repeat the same mistakes. There is often this weird view that your side can do no wrong. The reality is, both can, and there can be multiple assholes countries around the table, even if one is a far bigger asshole country.

I understand the concept of a safe space. I’m referring to the pro-China/Russia views. I’m a British democratic socialist. A proud lefty. I dislike large countries and their foreign policy (Russia, China and US). With that, I dislike my government’s conduct in the world, and their actions in support Israel, and Saudi etc. I am frequently dismayed and embarrassed. However, some of the pro Stalin stuff is weird, disturbing and has festered for a while. Can you be principled when you condemn some atrocities and rationalise away others?

I will engage in debate of course, and challenge where fit. I don’t think that echo chamber was good in some respects.

I’m not going to defend Azov, or their beliefs. Their prominence came when they were defending from invasion, including Mariupol in which civilians were killed, their homes were destroyed, and the city starved and flattened.

While no sane person thinks Azov is a good thing, why is the existence of misguided assholes worse than the flattening of a city and killing civilians?

“This city got razed to the ground” “Good, the people defending those civilians were bad people with bad tatoos”

How can you make that argument and consider yourself the good guy?

It’s ok, you’re not on reddit now.

Yup. British leftie here. I don’t like NATO, or trust it, but it has a purpose to serve, and the last few years have definitely demonstrated it. I don’t think any sane minded person could not justify Putin’s actions in Ukraine without tying themselves in knots. White NATO has unreasonably expanded against their word in recent years, raising cities to the ground is never justified, attacking civilians and constantly hitting civilian infrastructure is never justified. It’s a horrific speed run on collecting all war crimes, it seems.