Has there been any developments on the Github in regards to all this? Really, the only things that will solve this long term are proper and granular moderation tools.

yeah same, only like half of the videos load or play.

Especially because in my experience when people have asked for other kinds of trolls and bad faith actors to be removed on the defederation level, the common retort is to just block them yourself (which, to be fair, I support as steps between nothing and defederating)

“You know, now that this asshole mentions it, maybe we shouldn’t host stuff from these piracy communities as Lemmy’s largest instance. That might create problems for us down the road.”

I’m almost certain that’s what actually went down, but I’m explicitly referring to the issue of people’s perception.

Almost all of us end up creating a home system that works for the least tech-savvy in the home.

That’s where I started, as a kid still at home in the 2010s. I used plex, I’ve been getting progressively more frustrated with it, but not sure how I’d switch to something else.

I genuinely think that the best remedy to this is to give SAG and the WGA everything they want in negotiations. It would fundamentally alter the economics of streaming if they are subject to the same sort of residuals and writer’s room requirements as traditional media.

If the media corporations have their way, they’re gonna break the strike by outlasting them until they “start losing their homes” from being out of work for so long that they’re forced to acquiesce. Then we’re gonna really get awful content as no one will be able to take any significant risks to write a weird TV pilot or make a unique movie.

Honestly kinda legendary

Lmao this is the guy that first lead to them banning the communities right?

Love that lemmy.world seems to be making their moderation strategy based off of a troll with at least 4 alts…

I mentioned earlier or elsewhere on this thread that right now, the narrative that I’m aware of is as follows:

Lemmy.world users: just vibing, doing their thing

Concern troll: comes in with a freshly created account to pearl-clutch about scary illegal things

Lemmy.world users: hahaha look at this loser downvotes them to oblivion, resumes vibing

Lemmy.world Admins: Piracy?! OMG that’s ILLEGAL, thank goodness someone pointed this out to us

If they had an existing stance on piracy, they should have been already enforcing it. Then it wouldn’t look like they were successfully spurred into action by a bad-faith actor.

So many laws work like this too, it makes them worthless if personal wealth is required to get them enforced. If Section 230 only exists for the wealthy and corporations, the fediverse isn’t gonna get very far

If they had decided to do this a week earlier I doubt it would be this controversial.

Like, I think people are upset about blocking the piracy communities, sure, but I think that the real issue is that it feels like everyone is just vibing, doing their thing on their lemmy instances, then this troll comes in all fake concerned about breaking rules, gets utterly piled on naturally, only for the admins in question to come in and “side” with the “loser” in people’s eyes.

I also just thought that, given how thoroughly downvoted that post and all its OP’s comments were, it makes the Admins of Lemmy.world look like they’ve actively gone against popular opinion. Psychologically, mobs tend to dislike that appearance.

There’s nothing to sue? They could go after an instance owner, sure, but I’m reasonably sure that there’s still Section 230 safe harbor protections for “service providers”, which to my knowledge could easily be the owner/admin of a fediverse instance. Perhaps it’ll need to be litigated in the courts, which is unfortunate for whoever gets stuck being the trailblazer.

I think that people are more upset that it was done only after a troll complained about it on the support or admin community.

I’m actually pretty confused, because according to hexbear, they’re not federated with sh.itjust.works but when I view this post from my sh.itjust account, i see WAAAAAY more comments…

Given how some are complaining that threads is defederated but not the left wing instances, I’m thinking maybe they only have a problem with some forms of disinformation

Being able to group our subscriptions into “lists” like Mastodon would help.

I also think some of these communities for the same thing each with 3 or 4 monthly users should coordinate and decide which one is the real one and then redirect people to it from the smaller ones.