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No one person can represent an entire culture though. That’s why it’s on us to learn how to be respectful.

For example, someone from Mexico might be just fine with offensive Hispanic stereotypes, but that doesn’t excuse such behavior. You can’t just ask a random person for a pass, like what? Even asking for something like that would be utterly tasteless lmao

But cultural appreciation is not what is meant by “cultural appropriation.” Cultural appropriation is when it’s done in a disrespectful manner.

I grew up with some utterly racist experiences in school – the feather “headdress” and cardboard tipis, the sombreros on Cinco de Mayo, etc.

I wish I’d had someone at the time to explain why that was wrong.

To me, the term “cultural appropriation” refers to things like schools having kids make chicken feather “headdresses” to “celebrate” Native American Day, or wearing a religious symbol in a disrespectful way. Even though people like the person in the post can be annoying, I think it’s still progress that we’re able to have these discussions, and I think it’s too bad that for many people the takeaway seems to be “cultural appropriation is never problematic.” I’d take the person from the post any day over someone who thinks they’re immune from criticism when they unintentionally engage in behavior that truly is disrespectful.

Knitting is super fun. I used to do it every day until I started my masters. I keep thinking I should restart this hobby. As long as you don’t buy ridiculously premium yarns, it’s super cheap too. I used to find boxes of yarn at yard sales or thrift stores.

“Look sir, my quest log is very, very full. If I get you this can of tuna, that’s it right? Just to that vendor and back again? This won’t lead me into some Dwemer ruins or Daedric temple?”

Same in our house, and we used to have all kinds of Goya stuff. Fortunately, it’s never been that high quality to begin with and can be easily replaced by alternatives.

I make body scrubs in these.

Used coffee grounds, coconut oil, and some alcohol to keep it from molding

Gamer take

Hard disagree. Again, you’re blowing this way out of proportion. A movement isn’t one mod. It’s pretty clear that users were more interested in jerking their hate boners than in the movement itself.

It’s telling that even after these years, you’re still unable to gain a little healthy perspective on this. It’s really hard to admit that you were wrong, especially if you actively contributed to what was essentially a targeted harassment campaign.

This is like talking to Gamers about why death threats to devs are wrong lol

Yeah, whatever happened was a totally disproportionate response to a single bad interview for an audience of people who were never likely to support the movement in the first place.

I guess it’s super hard to put one’s personal feelings aside for the greater good, and it’s frighteningly easy to get drawn into dogpiling and scapegoating a single person rather than pausing and reflecting on forming a more constructive response.

Neither of the communities ever really recovered from that, and in my opinion that says a lot more about the myriad users than it does about one mod.

This is so melodramatic lol

It “killed” nothing. That was one bad mod vs. a bunch of users who were determined to self destruct.

it did actively harm the public perception of the movement

Again, this is greatly exaggerating the nature of the situation. Even if it did, it was so minor that it could have easily recovered. It’s not like irreparable harm was caused.

The mods were misfiring for sure, but what made me step away were not the mods – that could have been addressed over time – but the users. My reaction to the video and what the mods said was basically, “Oh haha, that was bad!” and I think that’s where it ended for me. I had noted issues with the mods prior to that and brought them up, and no one seemed to care at that time – I even pointed out several times that one of the mods had a stickied post on their profile specifically requesting interviews – so it’s hard for me to believe that the users were acting in good faith. Why did no one seem to care before that interview happened? But everyone got drummed up into an emotional frenzy, and that sort of thing is what tears movements apart – not one or two bad mods.

I agree the mods shouldn’t have positioned themselves as spokespeople, but there were so many other ways it could have been handled without melting down.

It was Fox News. Even if had been a stellar interview, they would have made it look bad.

And I don’t think it had any actual impact on how people viewed the community in general. It’s just people being terminally online and blowing things way out of proportion.

I agree the interview was bad, but it’s also one of the most inconsequential parts about it. That’s the tiniest most petty reason I’ve ever seen a community tear itself apart over. It was like a bunch of mindless chickens pecking one to death because they saw a spot of blood. Definitely on brand for reddit though.

“people” on reddit

I remember people on reddit misgendering that antiwork mod for the crime of [checks notes] a botched interview on Fox News that didn’t even fucking matter.

It was an ugly thing to see all that transphobia out in the open like that.

Lmao but fr I wish that scam had a different name, one that makes it a bit more apparent how the scam works. I get the idea of the hog being fattened and slaughtered, but that’s way too metaphorical imo

We mere mortals can never truly delete anything on Lemmy!

The BBC made an excellent documentary on pig butchering scams:

https://pi.ggtyler.dev/watch?v=bW4wYV0V-5s

I knew someone who was a victim of one of these scams from 2019 - 2023

Edit: Sorry, you specifically said youtube. Cringe Link O’Chest moment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW4wYV0V-5s

And I also commented twice. Ugh, what a train wreck.

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