Find a mostly European instance. Problem solved.

Americans are desperately trying to globalize their concerns everywhere.

An alternative to do what exactly? To just follow people? What about you follow no one?

“Fear of missing out”

We are not the cool guys therefore we don’t exist and the party happens without us elsewhere.

The wikimedia fundation is full of money, your forest office is not.

There is only one metric for a social network, the number of users.

Youtube channel? subscribers

Twitch channel? subscribers

Twitter? Followers

That’s about who gathers the most people, end of the line. If an instance managed to become a pole of gravity then it will be worth money.

And before you tell me that you can subscribe to a different instance, well, you can also subscribe to a different social network.

but fine, we disagree.

Wait for more tools and instances, and the leaders will emerge.

They gain nothing from buying an instance. Users don’t matter. They’re just as reachable as another federated instance.

ok, cool.

remember how the lemmy.ml admin asked that people join other instances.

lemmy.ml is overloaded, use other instances instead

People want to be with people, if you don’t get that then you don’t get social networks.

You miss-represent the fediverse. Users aren’t locked in. If someone buys one instance and you don’t like it, you move.

Maybe you will but people in their majority won’t do that. It’s too much operations. Also they might not even be aware of the transfer. Plus if an instance offers good services there might be a technological price to pay for leaving, like leaving instagram. All instances are not equal, specially if there are more interfaces in preparation.

We have a login, that’s all the requirement. We have adopted the platform and we are attracting more users by our numbers. It’s all about adoption.

because we’re a just fart in Sahara in comparison, both in numbers of people and in revenue dollars

So was Instagram when it began.

If Ernest sold the platform tomorrow you wouldn’t even notice it.

The emails revealed that Zuckerberg wanted to buy Instagram as it was becoming a threat to Facebook.

“Facebook, by its own admission saw Instagram as a threat that could potentially siphon business away from Facebook,” Nadler said during the hearing on Wednesday.

“So rather than compete with it, Facebook bought it. This is exactly the type of anti-competitive acquisition the antitrust laws were designed to prevent,” Nadler added.

Facebook bought Instagram for $1 billion in 2012, a shocking sum at that time for a company with 13 employees,

Facebook bought the adoption, they bought the users.

So what will you do about an instance called “rofl.lol”, which is huge, which has a lot of fans locally who want to keep interacting with it and which also allows spammers? Will you keep federating or will you defederate it?

If you don’t defederate this will become and endless whack-a-mole of bans with a drop of quality.

Do you have any source for this marketplace of instances?

I never talked about a marketplace of instances.

The value of an instance is a function of the number of his registered users.

Facebook bought Instagram for the price of ~$30 per user.

We have a bigger problem and it’s popularity. Some instances will want to become as big as possible, for resell value.

So they will be encouraged to let the maximum of people registering a new account, including bots and spammers. Because they make the numbers and they start the snowball effect.

Didn’t you all looked a the most populated instances/magazine when you registered magz, and you didn’t care about the mags with zero activity? Well, you are encouraging the process in a way.

People will be reluctant to defederate or to ban popular magazines from other subs. So the float of spammers is unlikely to stop, because the person who makes the decision, the admin of the instance, will welcome them. And you won’t ban the instance or the mag.

We have to become more like a club.

I don’t see a world where this works, the numbers just don’t add up. Anyway meta will never allow you access if you don’t sign a ToS with them. No ToS, no service, the lawyers will see to this.

Even in the event of threads opening for federation, our instance will never be able to endure the load of the constant traffic induced by 100 millions users.

I wish more people opened a computer to understand how it works. Because philosophy and essays only bring you so far.

You don’t really believe that they will allow you to use their platform without forcing a ToS on you, right?

Do you have the slightest idea of the ramifications of allowing anyone to use their platform just like that?

Install threads ffs and be done with it.

Also I didn’t see any mention of the volume of data that threads represents. Have we forgotten how IT works here?

And now the emotional argument…

Why is it so hard for some people to admit that some precaution is required when we are dealing with predators like Facebook?

Let’s focus on what we have instead of spending our time and money on federating a monster with 100 millions accounts.

We don’t want to become a threads client. Our development must be independent of Facebook. It won’t be independent anymore if 95% of the content is coming from Facebook. We need time to digest more users and now is absolutely not the time to federate such a big thing as 100 million users.

Get real. If people want threads then let them install threads. Nothing wrong with that.

And please stop with the “friends” thing
We get it: your friends are on Facebook. We are building something different. That’s all.

The stalker paradise!

Probably bad. It centralizes the logins on mastodon and give them power over all the other tools that depend on them. If a gafam purchases a big mastodon instance then he also purchases a lot of accounts too.