Ok…
So your point is that a bad logging implementation is bad. And I agree.
I’m not seeing how that’s extendable to implementations as a whole. You’re conflating your bad experience with "log aggregation is bad’.
Just because your company sucks at this doesn’t mean everyone else’s does.
Yeah, ofc it is.
I’m working in a system that generates 750 MILLION non-debug log messages a day (And this isn’t even as many as others).
Good luck grepping that, or making heads or tails of what you need.
We put a lot of work into making the process of digging through logs easier. The absolute minimum we can do it dump it into elastic so it’s available in Kibana.
Similarly, in a K8 env you need to get logs off of your pods, ASAP, because pods are transient, disposable. There is no guarantee that a particular pod will live long enough to have introspectable logs on that particular instance (of course there is some log aggregation available in your environment that you could grep. But they actually usefulness of it is questionable especially if you don’t know what you need to grep for).
These are dozens, hundreds, more problems that crop up as you scale the number of systems and people working on those systems.
Quite often, yes, especially for apps.
For nearly a year the Android Amazon app wouldn’t work. It would load, and then when a tracker failed to start, would show a generic error message page.
US bank mobile app wouldn’t login for about 2 months last year.
This happens quite often when apps are built with dependencies they assume will load, and when there is a failure an error boundary catches it and shows an error view.
So, essentially, really poorly written malware? Given the number of assumptions it makes without any sort of robustness around system configuration it’s about as good as any first-pass bash script.
It’d be a stretch to call it malware, it’s probably an outright fabrication to call it a virus.
Because the lowest common denominator is much MUCH lower than you think it is.
This means it’s easy to indoctrinate and easy to maintain that for a massive number of people.
Scientific illiteracy is extremely high, and actual “6th grade reading comprehension” is the highest level of literacy for > 50% of a country like the U.S. and ~20% are low literacy or actually illiterate.
This means that half of everyone in the U.S. can read and understand what they read at or below a 6th grade level. This isn’t “reading big words”, it’s “tell us about what you read”, “what is the relationship between x & y” type questions.
This comment for example, up to this point only, would be difficult to understand & comprehend for > 50% of people in the U.S. (it demands an 11th grade reading comprehension). And may be misread, misunderstood, or not understood at all.
People are driven to religions to cults and alt conspiracy theories when they don’t understand how the world works around them. They latch onto extremely simple often misleading or incorrect ideas of how the world works because they can understand it and it “makes sense” within their sphere of ignorance (we all have one, this isn’t meant to be a disparaging term).
This means that the problem is that humans are just not smart enough to escape religion yet. It’s the simplest answer, and it appears to be correct.