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Cake day: March 22nd, 2024

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  • Exactly! We can’t blame these companies and then buy their stuff and deflect all responsibility.

    It’s sort of a cycle that runs on apathy, ignorance, and lack of empathy.

    Powerful groups manipulate and coerce people and markets

    Manipulated, coerced people buy more of what they are pushed to

    Consumer votes in leaders that support this exploitative cycle making laws facilitating companies manipulating and coercing their behavior

    We need to break out of this cycle by conscientiously rejecting this manipulation, buying less, voting, running for office, etc. (i.e. degrowth)









  • I don’t disagree with you, but this is unrealistic.

    But…we don’t have a choice if we are to survive. Continuation with any system like our current system (i.e. exploitation of nature for economic growth) will lead to obvious ecological collapse. Why is certain ecological collapse viewed as the more realistic choice?

    This is akin to a person well on their way to a heart attack saying “well, eating healthy is unrealistic, so let’s switch to diet coke and pretend that’s enough”









  • It’s not possible to produce the amount of meat needed to feed our massive population while treating animals humanely.

    There are really two options to deal with this:

    1. Most humans in the world become vegan – sounds great but it’s not gonna happen

    2. Reduce our population to sustainable numbers (by eliminating the driver of the population explosion, i.e. fossil energy) – maybe also not gonna happen

    Edit: What (do I think) will happen? We’ll continue as we are now as hundreds of billions of animals are tortured until our civilization collapses. This will happen because we were all brought up under a state and told that defending ourselves, our communities, our animals, is wrong and illegal.